1 00:00:10,709 --> 00:00:08,790 one aspect of the international space 2 00:00:12,709 --> 00:00:10,719 station's mission is to find out how the 3 00:00:14,789 --> 00:00:12,719 human body reacts to spending a long 4 00:00:16,870 --> 00:00:14,799 period of time in weightlessness as 5 00:00:18,870 --> 00:00:16,880 future astronauts will do on missions to 6 00:00:20,950 --> 00:00:18,880 mars and other destinations out into the 7 00:00:22,550 --> 00:00:20,960 solar system there is an experiment 8 00:00:24,710 --> 00:00:22,560 about to begin on the station that's 9 00:00:26,950 --> 00:00:24,720 focusing on the impacts to the human 10 00:00:28,470 --> 00:00:26,960 heart looking at potential changes to 11 00:00:30,710 --> 00:00:28,480 heart muscle cells 12 00:00:33,110 --> 00:00:30,720 recently my colleague pat ryan spoke 13 00:00:35,190 --> 00:00:33,120 with arun sharma of the stanford 14 00:00:37,110 --> 00:00:35,200 university school of medicine one of the 15 00:00:39,350 --> 00:00:37,120 co-investigators of the experiment known 16 00:00:41,270 --> 00:00:39,360 as heart cells and started by asking him 17 00:00:43,270 --> 00:00:41,280 to explain what negative effects to the 18 00:00:46,790 --> 00:00:43,280 human heart have been seen in astronauts 19 00:00:48,229 --> 00:00:46,800 after long-duration space missions 20 00:00:50,470 --> 00:00:48,239 right so it's been pretty well 21 00:00:52,869 --> 00:00:50,480 established by a number of studies that 22 00:00:55,590 --> 00:00:52,879 have come out over the recent years that 23 00:00:56,869 --> 00:00:55,600 the heart actually changes shape on the 24 00:00:59,430 --> 00:00:56,879 organ level 25 00:01:01,990 --> 00:00:59,440 so actually over a long-term exposure to 26 00:01:04,310 --> 00:01:02,000 microgravity the heart assumes more of a 27 00:01:07,270 --> 00:01:04,320 spherical shape as opposed to normally 28 00:01:08,070 --> 00:01:07,280 fist-like shape that it has a ground 29 00:01:09,750 --> 00:01:08,080 side 30 00:01:13,030 --> 00:01:09,760 and this is something that happens over 31 00:01:15,429 --> 00:01:13,040 a period of few weeks and usually that 32 00:01:17,990 --> 00:01:15,439 shape returns to normal after the 33 00:01:19,990 --> 00:01:18,000 astronauts return ground side in 34 00:01:23,350 --> 00:01:20,000 addition there is some 35 00:01:25,910 --> 00:01:23,360 somewhat of a muscle mass loss or muscle 36 00:01:28,070 --> 00:01:25,920 atrophy that happens as a result of 37 00:01:29,990 --> 00:01:28,080 long-term exposure to microgravity the 38 00:01:32,069 --> 00:01:30,000 heart and the other muscles in the body 39 00:01:34,550 --> 00:01:32,079 simply don't have to do as much work and 40 00:01:37,270 --> 00:01:34,560 so therefore to compensate they actually 41 00:01:39,910 --> 00:01:37,280 reduce some of their muscle mass 42 00:01:41,830 --> 00:01:39,920 does the change in shape impact the 43 00:01:45,429 --> 00:01:41,840 heart's efficiency 44 00:01:47,749 --> 00:01:45,439 it usually does not because it is not at 45 00:01:50,710 --> 00:01:47,759 a substantial enough level 46 00:01:53,109 --> 00:01:50,720 on orbit to do so 47 00:01:55,830 --> 00:01:53,119 is there a way to build back up the mass 48 00:01:58,310 --> 00:01:55,840 that it's lost i mean we do exercises 49 00:01:59,590 --> 00:01:58,320 for astronauts to try to recover other 50 00:02:01,109 --> 00:01:59,600 muscles that are impacted by 51 00:02:03,109 --> 00:02:01,119 weightlessness 52 00:02:04,789 --> 00:02:03,119 absolutely so the heart of course is 53 00:02:07,429 --> 00:02:04,799 just another muscle and it can be 54 00:02:09,190 --> 00:02:07,439 trained as well so you know once when 55 00:02:12,070 --> 00:02:09,200 the astronauts do their regular 56 00:02:12,949 --> 00:02:12,080 exercises on orbit their the heart will 57 00:02:15,430 --> 00:02:12,959 also 58 00:02:17,510 --> 00:02:15,440 uh be able to restore some of that lost 59 00:02:19,589 --> 00:02:17,520 muscle mass although the heart is 60 00:02:22,630 --> 00:02:19,599 actually a very unique and a very 61 00:02:24,869 --> 00:02:22,640 interesting organ because after 62 00:02:27,670 --> 00:02:24,879 something that does damage to the heart 63 00:02:31,030 --> 00:02:27,680 say a heart attack it actually does not 64 00:02:33,270 --> 00:02:31,040 replace a lot of its lost cells so for 65 00:02:35,430 --> 00:02:33,280 example a number of the other tissues in 66 00:02:37,670 --> 00:02:35,440 the body such as the skin have a really 67 00:02:40,309 --> 00:02:37,680 strong regenerative capacity 68 00:02:42,390 --> 00:02:40,319 but once heart cells are lost it's very 69 00:02:44,470 --> 00:02:42,400 difficult for them to come back 70 00:02:46,869 --> 00:02:44,480 i understand that you have to keep human 71 00:02:48,470 --> 00:02:46,879 heart cells in culture in order to study 72 00:02:50,390 --> 00:02:48,480 them in space 73 00:02:52,949 --> 00:02:50,400 so you and your colleagues have found a 74 00:02:55,830 --> 00:02:52,959 way to do that because doing it is a 75 00:02:57,110 --> 00:02:55,840 difficult thing you found a way to uh 76 00:02:59,990 --> 00:02:57,120 to do that in order to get the 77 00:03:01,910 --> 00:03:00,000 experiment samples to study explain what 78 00:03:03,910 --> 00:03:01,920 that process is 79 00:03:06,949 --> 00:03:03,920 absolutely so it's pretty tough to 80 00:03:09,030 --> 00:03:06,959 culture primary human heart tissue or 81 00:03:12,070 --> 00:03:09,040 human heart tissue from 82 00:03:13,910 --> 00:03:12,080 patients for a very long period of time 83 00:03:15,750 --> 00:03:13,920 our lab and other labs around the world 84 00:03:18,309 --> 00:03:15,760 are trying to figure out ways to keep 85 00:03:20,550 --> 00:03:18,319 these cells alive long-term in culture 86 00:03:22,470 --> 00:03:20,560 but so far we've only been able to do so 87 00:03:24,789 --> 00:03:22,480 for two to three weeks 88 00:03:26,550 --> 00:03:24,799 but recently over the last 10 years or 89 00:03:28,390 --> 00:03:26,560 so there have been revolutionary 90 00:03:31,190 --> 00:03:28,400 advances in the field of stem cell 91 00:03:34,070 --> 00:03:31,200 biology and this has enabled us to 92 00:03:36,710 --> 00:03:34,080 actually create heart cells from a type 93 00:03:40,710 --> 00:03:36,720 of stem cell population called an 94 00:03:43,030 --> 00:03:40,720 induced pluripotent stem cell or ipsc 95 00:03:45,750 --> 00:03:43,040 and to do this we basically take a small 96 00:03:48,470 --> 00:03:45,760 sample of a patient's own skin or blood 97 00:03:50,869 --> 00:03:48,480 cells usually white blood cells and we 98 00:03:54,309 --> 00:03:50,879 can reprogram these white blood cells 99 00:03:56,470 --> 00:03:54,319 into a stem cell-like state after about 100 00:03:59,190 --> 00:03:56,480 a one month long process 101 00:04:01,589 --> 00:03:59,200 and once those ipscs those induced 102 00:04:03,509 --> 00:04:01,599 pluripotent stem cells are created we 103 00:04:05,750 --> 00:04:03,519 can turn them into really whatever cell 104 00:04:08,550 --> 00:04:05,760 type we're interested in such as a brain 105 00:04:10,470 --> 00:04:08,560 cell liver cell skin cell and since 106 00:04:12,390 --> 00:04:10,480 we're a cardiovascular research 107 00:04:13,429 --> 00:04:12,400 institute we're interested in heart 108 00:04:15,270 --> 00:04:13,439 cells 109 00:04:17,990 --> 00:04:15,280 and so the protocol that we can actually 110 00:04:18,870 --> 00:04:18,000 use to create these heart cells from 111 00:04:21,830 --> 00:04:18,880 these 112 00:04:24,390 --> 00:04:21,840 ipsc stem cells is about a two week long 113 00:04:27,270 --> 00:04:24,400 process but at the end of the road we 114 00:04:29,749 --> 00:04:27,280 actually get these visually contracting 115 00:04:31,990 --> 00:04:29,759 these beating heart cells that you can 116 00:04:34,469 --> 00:04:32,000 see visually contract under a microscope 117 00:04:36,710 --> 00:04:34,479 or sometimes with your naked eye 118 00:04:38,629 --> 00:04:36,720 and these are the cells that you're 119 00:04:40,230 --> 00:04:38,639 about to launch to the space station to 120 00:04:41,830 --> 00:04:40,240 to study 121 00:04:43,990 --> 00:04:41,840 explain what happens once you get them 122 00:04:45,990 --> 00:04:44,000 to orbit how how long are they there 123 00:04:47,590 --> 00:04:46,000 what's the process are the human crew 124 00:04:49,909 --> 00:04:47,600 members helping 125 00:04:53,270 --> 00:04:49,919 exactly so we will be utilizing these 126 00:04:55,189 --> 00:04:53,280 ipsc derived heart cells as our model 127 00:04:58,070 --> 00:04:55,199 system to study the effects of 128 00:04:59,350 --> 00:04:58,080 microgravity on single cell function on 129 00:05:01,909 --> 00:04:59,360 heart function 130 00:05:03,990 --> 00:05:01,919 unlike primary human heart tissues these 131 00:05:06,629 --> 00:05:04,000 cells can actually survive for a very 132 00:05:08,070 --> 00:05:06,639 long time in cell culture so we've 133 00:05:10,469 --> 00:05:08,080 actually been able to grow them for 134 00:05:11,430 --> 00:05:10,479 longer than a year in our cell culture 135 00:05:13,350 --> 00:05:11,440 dishes 136 00:05:15,270 --> 00:05:13,360 and so once these cells are actually 137 00:05:18,390 --> 00:05:15,280 launched into orbit they'll be 138 00:05:21,510 --> 00:05:18,400 maintained on orbit for about one month 139 00:05:22,950 --> 00:05:21,520 in particular by dr kate rubins who is 140 00:05:26,070 --> 00:05:22,960 is now at the international space 141 00:05:29,590 --> 00:05:26,080 station and what dr rubins will be doing 142 00:05:31,350 --> 00:05:29,600 is changing the nutrients on these cells 143 00:05:33,749 --> 00:05:31,360 on a weekly basis 144 00:05:38,310 --> 00:05:33,759 in addition she'll also be looking at 145 00:05:39,990 --> 00:05:38,320 changes in cell shape size beating rates 146 00:05:41,909 --> 00:05:40,000 uh these are some of the things that 147 00:05:43,430 --> 00:05:41,919 she'll be helping us out with 148 00:05:45,350 --> 00:05:43,440 and then they're gonna be brought back 149 00:05:47,029 --> 00:05:45,360 to earth for you to study uh what are 150 00:05:48,710 --> 00:05:47,039 you looking for when you get these 151 00:05:51,909 --> 00:05:48,720 samples back in the lab 152 00:05:55,110 --> 00:05:51,919 yeah so we actually will have a parallel 153 00:05:57,430 --> 00:05:55,120 set of samples round side controls 154 00:05:59,909 --> 00:05:57,440 which will compare our space flown 155 00:06:00,950 --> 00:05:59,919 samples once they actually return to the 156 00:06:03,110 --> 00:06:00,960 lab 157 00:06:05,670 --> 00:06:03,120 and this is important because we'll be 158 00:06:08,150 --> 00:06:05,680 able to see what are the exact what is 159 00:06:09,749 --> 00:06:08,160 the impact of microgravity in particular 160 00:06:12,070 --> 00:06:09,759 on changing 161 00:06:14,550 --> 00:06:12,080 cells size cell shape 162 00:06:17,029 --> 00:06:14,560 cell beating rates and also another 163 00:06:18,550 --> 00:06:17,039 factor gene expression we want to be 164 00:06:21,510 --> 00:06:18,560 able to see what's the effect of 165 00:06:23,510 --> 00:06:21,520 microgravity on alterating altering the 166 00:06:24,629 --> 00:06:23,520 gene expression of these space flown 167 00:06:27,990 --> 00:06:24,639 heart cells 168 00:06:29,749 --> 00:06:28,000 and this is by is comparing the two the 169 00:06:32,230 --> 00:06:29,759 cells that have been to space versus the 170 00:06:34,469 --> 00:06:32,240 ones that have stayed on earth 171 00:06:37,830 --> 00:06:34,479 exactly so we'll be comparing the ground 172 00:06:39,909 --> 00:06:37,840 side samples to our space flown samples 173 00:06:42,150 --> 00:06:39,919 would you imagine that i mean what is it 174 00:06:44,390 --> 00:06:42,160 you're trying to find could your results 175 00:06:46,550 --> 00:06:44,400 have some impact for astronauts as well 176 00:06:48,710 --> 00:06:46,560 as people with heart issues on earth 177 00:06:51,510 --> 00:06:48,720 potentially definitely yes i definitely 178 00:06:53,510 --> 00:06:51,520 think there is some application for 179 00:06:54,390 --> 00:06:53,520 regenerative medicine ground side as 180 00:06:56,629 --> 00:06:54,400 well 181 00:06:58,950 --> 00:06:56,639 as i mentioned earlier the heart is a 182 00:07:00,950 --> 00:06:58,960 really unique organ in that it has a 183 00:07:02,870 --> 00:07:00,960 very limited ability to regenerate 184 00:07:05,430 --> 00:07:02,880 itself and so we're always looking for 185 00:07:08,390 --> 00:07:05,440 novel new ways that we might be able to 186 00:07:09,749 --> 00:07:08,400 restore heart function after injury such 187 00:07:11,830 --> 00:07:09,759 as a heart attack 188 00:07:14,230 --> 00:07:11,840 and we really don't know what's the 189 00:07:17,029 --> 00:07:14,240 effect of microgravity on the single 190 00:07:17,990 --> 00:07:17,039 heart cell but we have a hypothesis that 191 00:07:20,790 --> 00:07:18,000 maybe 192 00:07:22,950 --> 00:07:20,800 this uh unique stimulus will be able to 193 00:07:25,270 --> 00:07:22,960 enhance cell division in a way that's 194 00:07:27,029 --> 00:07:25,280 not really possible ground side and so 195 00:07:29,830 --> 00:07:27,039 we're really excited to be able to use 196 00:07:32,870 --> 00:07:29,840 the international space station as a 197 00:07:35,350 --> 00:07:32,880 really unique resource and as a way to 198 00:07:37,830 --> 00:07:35,360 access a an environment that's not 199 00:07:39,589 --> 00:07:37,840 available here on earth it'll be 200 00:07:41,749 --> 00:07:39,599 interesting to uh to see what results 201 00:07:43,350 --> 00:07:41,759 you get thanks for taking a few minutes 202 00:07:45,350 --> 00:07:43,360 to explain what you're what you're 203 00:07:47,510 --> 00:07:45,360 working on 204 00:07:49,990 --> 00:07:47,520 no problem thank you for having me arun 205 00:07:50,950 --> 00:07:50,000 sharma of the stanford university school 206 00:07:53,270 --> 00:07:50,960 of medicine is one of the 207 00:07:54,950 --> 00:07:53,280 co-investigators on the experiment heart